Comments on: Eastasia’s Getting Awfully Big http://www.cocktailhag.com/blog/baloney/eastasias-getting-awfully-big/ She drinks, you know. Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:06:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Carter Hinkley http://www.cocktailhag.com/blog/baloney/eastasias-getting-awfully-big/comment-page-1/#comment-12555 Carter Hinkley Wed, 01 Sep 2010 14:02:51 +0000 http://www.cocktailhag.com/blog/?p=3561#comment-12555 Hi I was searching for useful feedback on supplies for large format printers. Your site was listed on Bing in this category, you have an interesting site. Hi I was searching for useful feedback on supplies for large format printers. Your site was listed on Bing in this category, you have an interesting site.

]]> By: cocktailhag http://www.cocktailhag.com/blog/baloney/eastasias-getting-awfully-big/comment-page-1/#comment-8309 cocktailhag Fri, 05 Feb 2010 02:14:08 +0000 http://www.cocktailhag.com/blog/?p=3561#comment-8309 I heard about that. Plus ca change, and all that. I heard about that. Plus ca change, and all that.

]]> By: mikeinportc http://www.cocktailhag.com/blog/baloney/eastasias-getting-awfully-big/comment-page-1/#comment-8308 mikeinportc Fri, 05 Feb 2010 01:41:35 +0000 http://www.cocktailhag.com/blog/?p=3561#comment-8308 Btw,(just to brighten your day ;) ) over the weekend, we made a deal for the use of seven, or possibly ten, bases in Columbia . Why? Probably the real reason is to protect Occidental Petroleum*'s pipeline. Obama apparently has also helped(enabled) bring back an old tradition : death squads in Central America , in Honduras. They'r kidnapping, torturing, disappearing, and killing those that opposed the coup. *( a W. Clinton sponsor - The CEO was wishing for just such a thing, two ? years ago.) Btw,(just to brighten your day ;) ) over the weekend, we made a deal for the use of seven, or possibly ten, bases in Columbia . Why? Probably the real reason is to protect Occidental Petroleum*’s pipeline.

Obama apparently has also helped(enabled) bring back an old tradition : death squads in Central America , in Honduras. They’r kidnapping, torturing, disappearing, and killing those that opposed the coup.

*( a W. Clinton sponsor – The CEO was wishing for just such a thing, two ? years ago.)

]]> By: cocktailhag http://www.cocktailhag.com/blog/baloney/eastasias-getting-awfully-big/comment-page-1/#comment-8307 cocktailhag Fri, 05 Feb 2010 01:37:34 +0000 http://www.cocktailhag.com/blog/?p=3561#comment-8307 Basically, nothing gets through. War is our only glory, and its no longer even necessary to win, but only stay. Once the bar gets set that low, so many countries can jump it; all they need is a resource or two and a strategic location. Desperate people eat that up; I've no idea why, but the righties are clearly on to something. Basically, nothing gets through. War is our only glory, and its no longer even necessary to win, but only stay. Once the bar gets set that low, so many countries can jump it; all they need is a resource or two and a strategic location. Desperate people eat that up; I’ve no idea why, but the righties are clearly on to something.

]]> By: mikeinportc http://www.cocktailhag.com/blog/baloney/eastasias-getting-awfully-big/comment-page-1/#comment-8306 mikeinportc Fri, 05 Feb 2010 01:28:13 +0000 http://www.cocktailhag.com/blog/?p=3561#comment-8306 <i> Eastasia’s Getting Awfully Big</i> :) Love the title. (& the rest that follows.) Unfortunately, a lot (most?) of the "deciders", are more into Bond* than Orwell. During some <i>hurry-up-and-wait</i> time yesterday, the subject of the debt and deficit came up. I was the last to weigh in (I was still on the <i>hurry</i> part.) Brought up the <b>$741B!</b>, as nobody else did, or as it turns out, even thought of it . First response(call him PM) : <i> *sigh*, Yeah,....... we'll probably need it,... and more." </i> ( He's for killng all Muslims, except those that renounce it. He doesn't like Democrats, or politicians in general, bet recognizes that he , and the countries finances were better in the Clinton era . Doesn't buy the St. Reagan myths either.) Me: <i> " That's up from $527B, <b>in one year!</b> , and almost 50% over three years. It was $497B , two years ago . An obscene # ,by itself,IMHO." </i> Response(besides rolled eyes from others) PM :<i>" Can't cut off the troops."</i> Me : <i> The troops? </i>[Actually, I would like to cut 'em off enough, so that they'd have to stay here, until such time as we can whittle down the #s, but didn't have time for that discussion]<i> You mean 'profits', and 'contractors'? Somebody's getting rich off it, and it's not us, and it's not them("troops"). More like TARP, for military contractors."</i> Reply, from another quarter, (the 23 yr-old ): <i>" Better to fight 'em over there, than over here." </i>( Before you go <i>there</i>, he's an Obama admirer with bad knees, who wanted to join, so not a typical chickenhawk.) I managed to stifle the derisive laugh that was coming out. Started in on that argument, but we had to get back to <i>hurring up</i>. Later, I got into the whole % of GDP,and Clinton-era #s with him . Looked interested, but not sure , might have just been humoring me. ????? The only one sympathetic to the anti-empire arguments is the semi-libertarian,teabagger-lite, Beck/Paulite. Point of all that ^ is, wft does it take to get through? I worry that it won't happen in time, or at all. The * <i>The World Is Not Enough</i> Eastasia’s Getting Awfully Big :) Love the title. (& the rest that follows.) Unfortunately, a lot (most?) of the “deciders”, are more into Bond* than Orwell.

During some hurry-up-and-wait time yesterday, the subject of the debt and deficit came up. I was the last to weigh in (I was still on the hurry part.) Brought up the $741B!, as nobody else did, or as it turns out, even thought of it . First response(call him PM) : *sigh*, Yeah,……. we’ll probably need it,… and more.”
( He’s for killng all Muslims, except those that renounce it. He doesn’t like Democrats, or politicians in general, bet recognizes that he , and the countries finances were better in the Clinton era . Doesn’t buy the St. Reagan myths either.)

Me: ” That’s up from $527B, in one year! , and almost 50% over three years. It was $497B , two years ago . An obscene # ,by itself,IMHO.”

Response(besides rolled eyes from others) PM :” Can’t cut off the troops.”

Me : The troops? [Actually, I would like to cut 'em off enough, so that they'd have to stay here, until such time as we can whittle down the #s, but didn't have time for that discussion] You mean ‘profits’, and ‘contractors’? Somebody’s getting rich off it, and it’s not us, and it’s not them(“troops”). More like TARP, for military contractors.”

Reply, from another quarter, (the 23 yr-old ): ” Better to fight ‘em over there, than over here.” ( Before you go there, he’s an Obama admirer with bad knees, who wanted to join, so not a typical chickenhawk.)

I managed to stifle the derisive laugh that was coming out. Started in on that argument, but we had to get back to hurring up. Later, I got into the whole % of GDP,and Clinton-era #s with him . Looked interested, but not sure , might have just been humoring me. ?????

The only one sympathetic to the anti-empire arguments is the semi-libertarian,teabagger-lite, Beck/Paulite.

Point of all that ^ is, wft does it take to get through? I worry that it won’t happen in time, or at all. The

* The World Is Not Enough

]]> By: cocktailhag http://www.cocktailhag.com/blog/baloney/eastasias-getting-awfully-big/comment-page-1/#comment-8304 cocktailhag Fri, 05 Feb 2010 01:04:13 +0000 http://www.cocktailhag.com/blog/?p=3561#comment-8304 Ah, that's why we need so many tanks. Follow the leader. Ah, that’s why we need so many tanks. Follow the leader.

]]> By: Ché Pasa http://www.cocktailhag.com/blog/baloney/eastasias-getting-awfully-big/comment-page-1/#comment-8303 Ché Pasa Fri, 05 Feb 2010 00:55:19 +0000 http://www.cocktailhag.com/blog/?p=3561#comment-8303 Your Empire Done Right!® From 30,000 feet it looks like it's all being prepped to hand over to the Chinese when the time comes to pay the... erm ... piper, anyway. Brush up your Mandarin. nǐ 你 hǎo 好 nǐ 你 hǎo 好 má 吗 ？ hěn 很 hǎo 好 ， xiè 谢 xiè 谢 ， nǐ 你 ne 呢 ？ Your Empire Done Right!®

From 30,000 feet it looks like it’s all being prepped to hand over to the Chinese when the time comes to pay the… erm … piper, anyway.

Brush up your Mandarin.

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]]> By: cocktailhag http://www.cocktailhag.com/blog/baloney/eastasias-getting-awfully-big/comment-page-1/#comment-8302 cocktailhag Thu, 04 Feb 2010 23:04:32 +0000 http://www.cocktailhag.com/blog/?p=3561#comment-8302 "One Day," Electronic, 1996..... That song popped into my head as I read your last paragraph: "One day and it won't be long," is the beginning of the chorus. I just listened to it and it improved my mood as I contemplate this revolting topic. What annoys me the most is that the whole strategy is so counterproductive; suddenly pissing off the US becomes that new status symbol across the globe, and the US answers this problem by throwing more bombs and credibility at it. Set up a few nicer torture chambers to win hearts and minds. “One Day,” Electronic, 1996….. That song popped into my head as I read your last paragraph:
“One day and it won’t be long,” is the beginning of the chorus. I just listened to it and it improved my mood as I contemplate this revolting topic. What annoys me the most is that the whole strategy is so counterproductive; suddenly pissing off the US becomes that new status symbol across the globe, and the US answers this problem by throwing more bombs and credibility at it.
Set up a few nicer torture chambers to win hearts and minds.

]]> By: cocktailhag http://www.cocktailhag.com/blog/baloney/eastasias-getting-awfully-big/comment-page-1/#comment-8301 cocktailhag Thu, 04 Feb 2010 22:43:18 +0000 http://www.cocktailhag.com/blog/?p=3561#comment-8301 Ah, but the British did send some of their "best and brightest" for Imperial Duty; we just pay through the nose to have Halliburton and Blackwater scrounge up the world's ne'er-do-wells for that job. The British also succeeded for a time; I don't see that happening now. Ah, but the British did send some of their “best and brightest” for Imperial Duty; we just pay through the nose to have Halliburton and Blackwater scrounge up the world’s ne’er-do-wells for that job. The British also succeeded for a time; I don’t see that happening now.

]]> By: William Timberman http://www.cocktailhag.com/blog/baloney/eastasias-getting-awfully-big/comment-page-1/#comment-8299 William Timberman Thu, 04 Feb 2010 18:23:58 +0000 http://www.cocktailhag.com/blog/?p=3561#comment-8299 Yes, we're all looking over there, toward the East which used to be red, and now, it seems, is turning green with a little crescent moon and an AK-47 on it, but the old style of U.S. imperialism, United Fruit style, continues to roll happily along -- out of sight, out of mind. While we've all been chanting our hatred for Eastasia, Oceania has once again been steamrollered into submission. Just like Theodore Roosevelt before them, Hillary and Barack put on their best Cheshire Cat grins and publicly deplored the deplorable, while yet another elected President was hustled off the stage at gunpoint, and the state next to the state run by the most hated man in Latin America was turned overnight into an American fortress and aircraft carrier. Yeah, that Chavez sure is a crazy motherfucker, thinking we're out to get him and all. And Zelaya? Hell, he was a Commie too -- serves him right for wanting to conduct a national referendum. Fuck 'em. One of these days, and it won't be long, they're gonna find terrorists in Stockholm and Oslo, in Paris and in Brussels. (I tell you what, though. If we're gonna invade Bordeaux, I might actually sign up. And while they're rounding up everyone at the <i>mairie,</i> I'll head straight for Chateau Margaux. Even the Nazis understood the value of living <i>wie Gott in Frankreich</i> (Like God in France.) Yes, we’re all looking over there, toward the East which used to be red, and now, it seems, is turning green with a little crescent moon and an AK-47 on it, but the old style of U.S. imperialism, United Fruit style, continues to roll happily along — out of sight, out of mind.

While we’ve all been chanting our hatred for Eastasia, Oceania has once again been steamrollered into submission. Just like Theodore Roosevelt before them, Hillary and Barack put on their best Cheshire Cat grins and publicly deplored the deplorable, while yet another elected President was hustled off the stage at gunpoint, and the state next to the state run by the most hated man in Latin America was turned overnight into an American fortress and aircraft carrier.

Yeah, that Chavez sure is a crazy motherfucker, thinking we’re out to get him and all. And Zelaya? Hell, he was a Commie too — serves him right for wanting to conduct a national referendum. Fuck ‘em.

One of these days, and it won’t be long, they’re gonna find terrorists in Stockholm and Oslo, in Paris and in Brussels. (I tell you what, though. If we’re gonna invade Bordeaux, I might actually sign up. And while they’re rounding up everyone at the mairie, I’ll head straight for Chateau Margaux. Even the Nazis understood the value of living wie Gott in Frankreich (Like God in France.)

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