Comments on: The Charlotte Letter http://www.cocktailhag.com/blog/baloney/the-charlotte-letter/ She drinks, you know. Sun, 01 Aug 2010 00:32:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: dirigo http://www.cocktailhag.com/blog/baloney/the-charlotte-letter/comment-page-1/#comment-6208 dirigo Wed, 28 Oct 2009 20:01:50 +0000 http://www.cocktailhag.com/blog/?p=2774#comment-6208 Ron Kovic ... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ron-kovic/a-letter-to-the-president_b_337002.html Ron Kovic …

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ron-kovic/a-letter-to-the-president_b_337002.html

]]> By: cocktailhag http://www.cocktailhag.com/blog/baloney/the-charlotte-letter/comment-page-1/#comment-6200 cocktailhag Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:43:56 +0000 http://www.cocktailhag.com/blog/?p=2774#comment-6200 Or during the Bush years, he could have been a four-star and gotten sprayed, too. Or during the Bush years, he could have been a four-star and gotten sprayed, too.

]]> By: dirigo http://www.cocktailhag.com/blog/baloney/the-charlotte-letter/comment-page-1/#comment-6199 dirigo Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:36:39 +0000 http://www.cocktailhag.com/blog/?p=2774#comment-6199 As a mere corporal, he'd be blasted with a fire hose. As a mere corporal, he’d be blasted with a fire hose.

]]> By: cocktailhag http://www.cocktailhag.com/blog/baloney/the-charlotte-letter/comment-page-1/#comment-6193 cocktailhag Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:26:36 +0000 http://www.cocktailhag.com/blog/?p=2774#comment-6193 Hoh is one of the few; and I deeply admire his speaking up. And as Keillor points out, the smear machine seems oddly silent. Hoh is one of the few; and I deeply admire his speaking up. And as Keillor points out, the smear machine seems oddly silent.

]]> By: dirigo http://www.cocktailhag.com/blog/baloney/the-charlotte-letter/comment-page-1/#comment-6188 dirigo Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:02:07 +0000 http://www.cocktailhag.com/blog/?p=2774#comment-6188 Here's to Mr. Hoh ... http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/garrison_keillor/index.html?story=/opinion/keillor/2009/10/27/matthew_hoh Here’s to Mr. Hoh …

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/garrison_keillor/index.html?story=/opinion/keillor/2009/10/27/matthew_hoh

]]> By: dirigo http://www.cocktailhag.com/blog/baloney/the-charlotte-letter/comment-page-1/#comment-6185 dirigo Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:20:58 +0000 http://www.cocktailhag.com/blog/?p=2774#comment-6185 Twists and turns in the road - "I'm a long gone daddy ... " http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/cartoons/10_28_Ward_Sutton/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oVzHm_S0-A Twists and turns in the road -

“I’m a long gone daddy … ”

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/cartoons/10_28_Ward_Sutton/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oVzHm_S0-A

]]> By: dirigo http://www.cocktailhag.com/blog/baloney/the-charlotte-letter/comment-page-1/#comment-6171 dirigo Wed, 28 Oct 2009 00:24:13 +0000 http://www.cocktailhag.com/blog/?p=2774#comment-6171 Retz, on behalf of "my generation," I apologize. As for Tom, let me be clear: I'm no utopian. I've had too much of what Jimi Hendrix called "experience." Nor am I a member in good standing of any faction, splinter group or formal political association - socialist or otherwise; nor veteran's group (the jerks at the draft board didn't believe I wasn't a joiner or a leader!). No party do I hang with. I'm too far gone for that - far gone, far gone, as Polonius says of Hamlet. I'm not willing to respond to stuff you put out, as if there's a debate to be won. And I don't want to have a beer with you. It's what you symbolize: the blinkered, pie-eyed belief that markets, even with the evidence of their recent, catastrophic collapse in full view (and with the people in charge at the time refusing to take any responsibility), are, at all times pure and good; and in that context, that the former president can now say. with a straight face, that it's all been "fair," as he continues to countenance endless war (with no concern whatsoever, except ceremonially, for the people who've been out there, rotating over and over, for nearly eight years). Y'all go shopping, hear? Let's get "motivated" !!! What a disgrace. Disgrace corrupts; and absolute disgrace corrupts absolutely. Retz, on behalf of “my generation,” I apologize.

As for Tom, let me be clear: I’m no utopian. I’ve had too much of what Jimi Hendrix called “experience.” Nor am I a member in good standing of any faction, splinter group or formal political association – socialist or otherwise; nor veteran’s group (the jerks at the draft board didn’t believe I wasn’t a joiner or a leader!). No party do I hang with. I’m too far gone for that – far gone, far gone, as Polonius says of Hamlet.

I’m not willing to respond to stuff you put out, as if there’s a debate to be won. And I don’t want to have a beer with you.

It’s what you symbolize: the blinkered, pie-eyed belief that markets, even with the evidence of their recent, catastrophic collapse in full view (and with the people in charge at the time refusing to take any responsibility), are, at all times pure and good; and in that context, that the former president can now say. with a straight face, that it’s all been “fair,” as he continues to countenance endless war (with no concern whatsoever, except ceremonially, for the people who’ve been out there, rotating over and over, for nearly eight years).

Y’all go shopping, hear? Let’s get “motivated” !!!

What a disgrace.

Disgrace corrupts; and absolute disgrace corrupts absolutely.

]]> By: cocktailhag http://www.cocktailhag.com/blog/baloney/the-charlotte-letter/comment-page-1/#comment-6170 cocktailhag Wed, 28 Oct 2009 00:19:44 +0000 http://www.cocktailhag.com/blog/?p=2774#comment-6170 Who wouldn't? As Nailhead amply demonstrates, Republicans aren't the most lovable things around. Who wouldn’t? As Nailhead amply demonstrates, Republicans aren’t the most lovable things around.

]]> By: retzilian http://www.cocktailhag.com/blog/baloney/the-charlotte-letter/comment-page-1/#comment-6169 retzilian Wed, 28 Oct 2009 00:00:42 +0000 http://www.cocktailhag.com/blog/?p=2774#comment-6169 To add to dirigo's fine rebuttle, I wonder why, Tom, you continue to refer to those of us here (and wherever else you comment, I presume) as "utopians"; I don't think I or anyone here is deluded about what realities we face as Americans and as humans. I was far too young to be a Hippie and I have no sentimental attachment to that era whatsoever. In fact, I'm somewhat ashamed that the Boomers pretty much ruined everything for those in my generation. But I digress... Put simply enough - the conservatives/Republicans had, in my lifetime, Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush I and Bush II constituting almost 30 years of the presidency and over 30 years with the Republicans as majority in Congress, never mind how many federal judges, justices and other law enforcement agents still on the job who were political appointees. (See also: the See Eye A and the Eff Bee Eye)... And where did that bring us? Less regulation, companies leaving the country to manufacture elsewhere, financial breakdowns, airlines less safe, food less safe, college costs skyrocketing, education systems in crisis, health care costs out of control, vast unemployment... Hell of a job, Brownie. I don't care about your politics, Tom. I care about working, feeding my kids, having a safe place to live, having safe food, having clean air and skies, leaving my grandchildren a great place to live, having a reason to send my kids to college, giving them a quality of life that I ejoyed back in the good old days when things were cheap and jobs were plenty. Yeah, when we had factories. So, who's to blame? I don't care anymore. Just give me one reason to trust the Republicans, any Republican at this point. And BTW, FWIW, I did put "No Republicans Need Apply" on my dating profile. To add to dirigo’s fine rebuttle, I wonder why, Tom, you continue to refer to those of us here (and wherever else you comment, I presume) as “utopians”; I don’t think I or anyone here is deluded about what realities we face as Americans and as humans. I was far too young to be a Hippie and I have no sentimental attachment to that era whatsoever. In fact, I’m somewhat ashamed that the Boomers pretty much ruined everything for those in my generation. But I digress…

Put simply enough – the conservatives/Republicans had, in my lifetime, Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush I and Bush II constituting almost 30 years of the presidency and over 30 years with the Republicans as majority in Congress, never mind how many federal judges, justices and other law enforcement agents still on the job who were political appointees. (See also: the See Eye A and the Eff Bee Eye)…

And where did that bring us? Less regulation, companies leaving the country to manufacture elsewhere, financial breakdowns, airlines less safe, food less safe, college costs skyrocketing, education systems in crisis, health care costs out of control, vast unemployment…

Hell of a job, Brownie.

I don’t care about your politics, Tom. I care about working, feeding my kids, having a safe place to live, having safe food, having clean air and skies, leaving my grandchildren a great place to live, having a reason to send my kids to college, giving them a quality of life that I ejoyed back in the good old days when things were cheap and jobs were plenty. Yeah, when we had factories.

So, who’s to blame? I don’t care anymore. Just give me one reason to trust the Republicans, any Republican at this point.

And BTW, FWIW, I did put “No Republicans Need Apply” on my dating profile.

]]> By: nailheadtom http://www.cocktailhag.com/blog/baloney/the-charlotte-letter/comment-page-1/#comment-6168 nailheadtom Tue, 27 Oct 2009 23:08:54 +0000 http://www.cocktailhag.com/blog/?p=2774#comment-6168 It's amusing and informative that you utopians assume that anyone that finds your class-warfare agenda reprehensible must be a Republican and stupid. Socialists are opposed by anarchists, monarchists, various deists, cargo cult members, head hunters and major league baseball players as well as Arizona cotton farmers and liquor store owners. There's no doubt that there's a range of intelligence in homo sapiens, some being less sapient than others. It seems odd, however, that all the self-described wise ones would be utopians and their political and economic adversaries be less mentally gifted. Smacks of statistical improbability. But that wouldn't give pause to an intellectual microbe like Steven Rockford. The extinction of non-socialists would make for a far less populous world, particularly in areas where the socialists once held sway. It’s amusing and informative that you utopians assume that anyone that finds your class-warfare agenda reprehensible must be a Republican and stupid. Socialists are opposed by anarchists, monarchists, various deists, cargo cult members, head hunters and major league baseball players as well as Arizona cotton farmers and liquor store owners. There’s no doubt that there’s a range of intelligence in homo sapiens, some being less sapient than others. It seems odd, however, that all the self-described wise ones would be utopians and their political and economic adversaries be less mentally gifted. Smacks of statistical improbability. But that wouldn’t give pause to an intellectual microbe like Steven Rockford. The extinction of non-socialists would make for a far less populous world, particularly in areas where the socialists once held sway.

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