What part of the political spectrum is that coming from?

RMP, I knew you would not look at the picture in the one link or read the very short newspaper article in the other link — I know how hard it is when your religion is shown to be wrong. When it snows in Orlando, will you at least read a newspaper article that goes against your faith?

A lot of the natives are still buying this stuff (but fewer we hope), but not too many others (I’d bet), people outside the country who can actually think and discuss such things as the scientific method.

I think I’ll go buy some Texas high school science books. Read up on the problem with polar bears slipping off their little slabs of ice.

It would be nice to get real science on that issue and many, many more. To get “real science” we will have to figure out how to stop the politicization of science, and I am truly afraid that will not be possible in this country for a long, long time.

Perhaps we can hope for other scientists in other countries to come forward with facts instead of self-serving hysteria? Maybe. Who knows? (but, they will have trouble getting published)

Investigate how American science is funded and controlled someday to see why I am pessimistic.

Or not.

Just do it.

Then all the screamers on this issue can scream about other things: like wayward Republicans, the myriad threats to the “culture,” or whether Americans should have to drive cars as small as basement freezers.

Another story from down under.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25401759-25717,00.html

Andrew Bolt

April 29, 2009 12:00am

IT’S snowing in April. Ice is spreading in Antarctica. The Great Barrier Reef is as healthy as ever.

And that’s just the news of the past week. Truly, it never rains but it pours – and all over our global warming alarmists.

Time’s up for this absurd scaremongering. The fears are being contradicted by the facts, and more so by the week.

Doubt it? Then here’s a test.

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It is only a Media news story, but I don’t think you can blame Republicans or other scary monsters for this one. Can you?

So you are saying that you are unaware of any credible, scientific challenges to man-made global warming? If you are, how does one avoid knowing about these challenges? How does one not know that those who propose extraordinary theories need produce extraordinary evidence to back it up. And no, computer models that do not even consider the main greenhouse gas are not scientific evidence. Nor do the many weather stations across America placed in parking lots with air conditioner exhaust (the heat) pointed at them count as anything other than fudging the data to get the results you already want. See front page of http://www.surfacestations.org/ for an example of each type.

RPM, when I was young I thought the crazies early in our countries history who believed in witchcraft and so forth were gone forever. I was dead wrong. The planet has been cooling for a decade and the last two winters set records world wide. Of course, data that is contrary to a theory is tossed out in modern science now that it is so politicized.

I’ll let you bluster on, but it is the highth of hypocracy to claim that only neo-cons or Republicans think that your new weather religion is heifer dust. Many of us have seen data that points to the sun as the source of weather variation on this planet. The Sun, perhaps you have heard of it?