Comments on: victory, even in defeat

By: cocktailhag

cocktailhag — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 14:09:12 +0000

Of course. I supported Obama, wholeheartedly, seeing a Republican defeat to be much more important than any real “change” a nominal Democrat would provide. I didn’t give any money, though, since he was already drowning in it. My bucks went to Jeff Merkley, Al Franken, No on 8, and Act Blue candidates.
Obama may be disappointing at times, but he’s no McCain/Palin.

By: JoeMommaSan

JoeMommaSan — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 13:47:35 +0000

Since I was never particularly heartened in the first place, my disappointment is considerably less. I didn’t even expect Obama to win let alone pull off any of those fancy promises he was making.

Still, I can’t imagine I’d be any happier with a McCain/Palin administration, so that’s got to count for something, right?

By: Bill

Bill — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 05:40:12 +0000

One wonders what, if anything, would ever look like defeat to a righty. Sadly, no one has the guts to tell them, and nobody, but nobody, will ever show them. Maybe they do know something I don’t know.

Have they lost? They haven’t won but I’m not so sure they’ve lost.

I am deeply disheartened by the Obama administration thus far. Very deeply.

By: cocktailhag

cocktailhag — Sun, 05 Apr 2009 14:42:55 +0000

Clearly the “No” forces were outgunned, and didn’t see what was coming from the Mormons, along with that neat trick of capitalizing on homophobia in racial minorities. Remember that creepy commercial GG posted at UT with the two little homophobes singing?
Anyway, the issue will only be resolved in the courts, just like civil rights. Hate campaigns are just too tempting for Republicans to not inflame them, endlessly rehashing the Southern Strategy.

By: Kitt

Kitt — Sun, 05 Apr 2009 14:34:07 +0000

The Oregon amendment passing but not helping Bush in 2004 would compare to the outcome of the Prop 8 amendment in California passing in 2008 but not helping McCain. That outcome is disturbing and confusing at the same time. In the case of the prop 8 passing I mostly blame the late to the party “No on 8″ powers that be. Because It seems a lot of people who voted ‘Yes’ had misunderstood what they were voting for. But still, many did understand and voted ‘yes’ anyway, and that is a shame.

By: cocktailhag

cocktailhag — Sun, 05 Apr 2009 14:22:37 +0000

Oh, and don’t forget “teh ghey,” always a useful bogeyman. We had a constitutional amendment on the ballot to ban gay marriage in 2004, which passed, but ended up not helping Bush anyway. I’ve always felt that all the sex issues are in play solely for show; like the two levels of humor in a good cartoon.

By: cocktailhag

cocktailhag — Sun, 05 Apr 2009 14:16:26 +0000

Yes, and O’Reilly, Hannity, Beck, Rush et al have seen their audiences spike. Which isn’t so bad, I guess. All of them were much creepier, and more boring, when all they did is cheerlead for Bush. It was like Pravda and Big Brother put together.
Now we have a band of restless nativists watching FOX and stockpiling weapons. Plus ca change….

By: OSR

OSR — Sun, 05 Apr 2009 14:07:59 +0000

The GOP’s goal was to never let the righty win, only the wingnuts were too blind to fathom this. For instance, many Midwestern Red states were carried by anti-abortion. What if, and you know that they could have done it in 2002-03, the Republicans banned abortion? People in places like Kansas might start noticing what NAFTA, Monsanto, and Walmart were doing to them.

By: timothy3

timothy3 — Sun, 05 Apr 2009 13:58:10 +0000

One wonders what, if anything, would ever look like defeat to a righty. Sadly, no one has the guts to tell them, and nobody, but nobody, will ever show them. Maybe they do know something I don’t know.

This is the nature of that particular beast. There are reports making the rounds of large spikes in weapons sales. When one is apocalyptic, and therefore “right” about all things, defeat simply isn’t in the cards. Meacham at Newsweek is currently blathering on about the drop in numbers of self-proclaimed Christians. His article is more than one page–which violates my one page rule–so I didn’t read all of it. I assume, however, that at some point he begins to lament that the America he knew (that elitist one) is suffering from the growth in hippie-dom, or some such thing.

By: cocktailhag

cocktailhag — Sun, 05 Apr 2009 04:44:32 +0000

It’s not as far as you think, WT…… But again let me say how glad I am that ypu’re here.