My Future Husband

Well, today I read an interview with Wikileaks founder Julian Assange in Der Spiegel, and I think I’m in love.  I know, Glenn Greenwald saw him first, but too bad; he’s mine.  Remember that before reading this, by the way.

In a SPIEGEL interview, WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, 39, discusses his decision to publish the Afghanistan war logs, the difficult balance between the public interest and the need for state secrets and why he believes people who wage war are more dangerous than him.

It is evident that the German press is now nearly as dumb as ours, “dangerous than him?), and just as automatically pro-secrecy, as you’ll see.  How convenient.

SPIEGEL: You are about to publish a vast amount of classified data on the war in Afghanistan. What is your motivation?

Assange: These files are the most comprehensive description of a war to be published during the course of a war — in other words, at a time when they still have a chance of doing some good. They cover more than 90,000 different incidents, together with precise geographical locations. They cover the small and the large. A single body of information, they eclipse all that has been previously said about Afghanistan. They will change our perspective on not only the war in Afghanistan, but on all modern wars.

SPIEGEL: Do you think that the publication of this data will influence political decision-makers?

Assange: Yes. This material shines light on the everyday brutality and squalor of war. The archive will change public opinion and it will change the opinion of people in positions of political and diplomatic influence.

Time to take the curlers out and head for Assange’s undisclosed location.

SPIEGEL: Aren’t you expecting a little too much?

Wars, you know, aren’t supposed to ever either end or even be talked about unduly by the small people; they just are.  Get with the program, you commie.

Assange: There is a mood to end the war in Afghanistan. This information won’t do it alone, but it will shift political will in a significant manner.

SPIEGEL: The material contains military secrets and names of sources. By publishing it, aren’t you endangering the lives of international troops and their informants in Afghanistan?

The treason card, just like ol’ Nixon, and from a supposed “journalist?”  Did Murdoch buy Der Spiegel while I was passed out or something?

Assange: The Kabul files contain no information related to current troop movements. The source went through their own harm-minimization process and instructed us to conduct our usual review to make sure there was not a significant chance of innocents being negatively affected. We understand the importance of protecting confidential sources, and we understand why it is important to protect certain US and ISAF sources.

SPIEGEL: So what, specifically, did you do to minimize any possible harm?

Assange: We identified cases where there may be a reasonable chance of harm occurring to the innocent. Those records were identified and edited accordingly.

SPIEGEL: Is there anything that you consider to be a legitimate state secret?

You know, we journalists stopped doing, well, journalism a long time ago.  Why don’t you?

Assange: There is a legitimate role for secrecy, and there is a legitimate role for openness. Unfortunately, those who commit abuses against humanity or against the law find abusing legitimate secrecy to conceal their abuse all too easy. People of good conscience have always revealed abuses by ignoring abusive strictures. It is not WikiLeaks that decides to reveal something. It is a whistleblower or a dissident who decides to reveal it. Our job is to make sure that these individuals are protected, the public is informed and the historical record is not denied.

Hands off, he’s mine.

SPIEGEL: But in the end somebody has to decide whether you publish or not. Who determines the criteria? WikiLeaks considers itself to be a trailblazer when it comes to freedom of information, but it lacks transparency in its own publishing decisions.

You know, not like the WaPoo.

Assange: This is ridiculous. We are clear about what we will publish and what we will not. We do not have adhoc editorial decisions. We always release the full primary sources to our articles. What other press organization has such exacting standards? Everyone should try to follow our lead.

What he said.

SPIEGEL: The problem is that it is difficult to hold WikiLeaks accountable. You operate your servers in countries that offer you broad protection. Does WikiLeaks consider itself to be above the law?

You know, those laws about consent of the governed and a free press are so “quaint” these days.

Assange: WikiLeaks does not exist in outer space. We are people who exist on Earth, in particular nations, each of which have a particular set of laws. We have been legally challenged in various countries. We have won every challenge. It is courts that decide the law, not corporations or generals. The law, as expressed by constitutions and courts, has been on our side.

That he didn’t just say, “no wonder you have such a crappy job,”  but got the idea across anyway means I could start drinking earlier once we’re married.

SPIEGEL: You have said that there is a correlation between the transparency for which you are fighting and a just society. What do you mean by that?

Hitler showed us fascism “doesn’t matter.”

Assange: Reform can only come about when injustice is exposed. To oppose an unjust plan before it reaches implementation is to stop injustice.

I’ve got a ring all picked out.  I’ll buy it myself.

SPIEGEL: During the Vietnam War, US President Richard Nixon once called Daniel Elsberg, the leaker of the Pentagon Papers, the most dangerous man in America. Are you today’s most dangerous man or the most endangered?

That would be the latter.  This Foxy Der Spiegelite clearly thinks somebody ought to, and probably will, snuff Assange, but soon.  That’ll come in handy if I get tired of him later, so the nuptials are still on.

Assange: The most dangerous men are those who are in charge of war. And they need to be stopped. If that makes me dangerous in their eyes, so be it.

Nyeah, nyeah, nyeah.  You tell them, Honey.

SPIEGEL: You could have started a company in Silicon Valley and lived in a home in Palo Alto with a swimming pool. Why did you decide to do the WikiLeaks project instead?

Gee, Mother Theresa, you could have joined a nice teaching order and avoided all that icky death and despair, and lounged poolside like Paris Hilton as a Good American should.  What’s wrong with you?

Assange: We all only live once. So we are obligated to make good use of the time that we have and to do something that is meaningful and satisfying. This is something that I find meaningful and satisfying. That is my temperament. I enjoy creating systems on a grand scale, and I enjoy helping people who are vulnerable. And I enjoy crushing bastards. So it is enjoyable work.

Imagine that.  And he’s picked the right bastards, too, in this case in the Obama Administration and the Neocon and Christianist-tainted military-industrial complex, who are reacting no better than Nixon did in a similar situation, revealingly.  Sadly, interviews like this show that Assange has a tough row to hoe in our world of Permanent War, but he’s on the right track.

A reporter once asked Zsa Zsa Gabor how many husbands she’d had.

“You mean besides my own?”

I know just how she feels.

25 Comments

  1. nswfm says:

    You crack me up with your writing, even though I think he’s MINE!

  2. The Heel says:

    Tart,
    Der Spiegel, today, is an awful, ridiculous and embarrassing publication on the level of the colorful boulevard press at checkout stands, here.
    It was once a reputable monthly magazine with good journalism (after the war and in the 60s/70s clearly before my reading times). Then it slit into the same old, lame old path of greed driven revenue maximization. The transformation was complete in the early 80s.
    Germany has few respectable papers left. “Die Zeit” being the best in my opinion.
    Congratulations to your new husband candidate. I will throw flowers (and later up) on your wedding – promise :)

    • cocktailhag says:

      I thought about consulting you on this. Somehow I thought that the not-so-recent Unpleasantness would have made German journalism, more, well, skeptical. I thought wrong. apparently.
      As for the wedding, I have no doubt you’ll come through; you should tell Johnny to bring a bag and a hand truck, so I can get on with my wedding night.

  3. dirigo says:

    Hey, this deal is finally more lengthy, more fucked up, and laden with more, much more, chortling in real time than Vietnam could ever have generated.

    No more syndrome!

    Isn’t that fucking great?

  4. Meremark says:

    oh, dearie Hag, oh dear. Your betrothing bent on this guy benefits the bad guys. Some evidence is that dumbhead tom, assigned here by the bad guys, does not come bark at your marital mindset, his no comment is his tacit approval of you liking Assange who’s another assigned bad guy on the same side as dumbhead.

    How can that be?!, y’all ask. How can the wikileaks be a CIA trap? Well, for one thing, then they know whoever contributes ‘secret’ material that ‘whoever’ happens to get hold of, from whistleblowing ‘mole’ or conscienced do-gooder, and when Assange knows then CIA knows where the leak came from.

    A less-seen aspect is that no one knows, (due to Assange’s over-serious wikileaks sources ‘shielding’), whether any one actually contributed the material he calls ‘contributions’ (from secret admirers? secret-passers?), or if The Company is wikileaks only source, and everything ‘exposed’ has been pre-sanitized and ‘clearanced’ but maybe with a pinch of guilt left in it for cred, (what Nixon’s stonewallers dubbed “the limited hang-out route,” pleading guilty to B & E in order to satiate the pound-of-flesh hounds so no one goes looking up the trail to 30,000 unnecessary more murdered ‘Nam vets thinking Nuremberg II), (and, btw, Woodward came into the WaPo a ‘cub reporter’ just in the nick of time before The Story of the Decade ‘made’ his name … came in as assigned by The Company (again) and fed enough tidbits from unknown sources, maybe Deep Throat, maybe not, whoever that was … and all because Tricky Dick ‘knew too much’ about CIA participation in Nov.22,’63 (JFK murder) so ‘they’ had to neutralize him and his leverage on ‘them’), but nothing wikileaks ever ‘leaks’ is going to insense a mass revolt, nor remove or retire or reform anyone important … except antagonists of The Company, (which includes a few Pentagoners, who are antagonists of The Co.) And lastly, besides, by the CIA controlling the spilling of ‘limited hang-out’ secrets through wikileaks, ‘they’ know when it is coming and arrange ‘damage control’ in advance.

    Think about it.

    But here is a big BIG ‘thing’ to think about. Pretend: You and someone together commit a crime, (I said, “pretend”), and you both get away, but wouldn’t you have to ‘off’ the other “someone” to REALLY feel secure they weren’t going to ‘off’ you? Like these two dames who know about the missing boy: how long before one of them ‘rubs out’ the other? Or, as Ben Franklen (supposedly) said: Three people can keep a secret, if two of them are dead. Ol’ Ben, he knew the ways of the world. Mr. Sophisticated, yes sirree.

    So for 60-odd years the media, meaning newspapers mainly, have partnered with CIA in the international crimes, (running illegal wars, illegally claiming ‘license to kill’ and so on), and for its part The Media covered for The Co., looked the other way, didn’t report, spiked stories, reported what they were told, etc., all the while ‘in the know’ of truths about who was doing the murdering. (Luce reversed two frames of Zapruder film published in his Life magazine, to give the appearance of JFK’s head shoved forward instead of the actual violent backward neck-jerk as the back of his skull went onto the limo trunk-deck; and when the photo-flop was pointed out Luce said, “oops, my bad, thanks for playing our game.”) Anyway, as you see and say, Hag, this wikileaks business sure makes the media, meaning newspapers mainly, look bad … you just don’t see that that’s the purpose, now in the internet-century the time has come to ‘rub out’ the CIA’s 60-yr accomplice in crime: The Media.

    Now, so far, the (two?) points I’ve made are among the simpler ones, and you no doubt can see others for yourself. Merely start with, for the sake of discussion, let yourself consider, the idea that wikileaks is a CIA-handled instrument.

    How did ‘they’ get to Assange? The New Yorker profile of him says he was on his way to jail in Australia except at the last minute some deal was struck and he stayed out. And right after that he had much money and easy passports and went all over the world for a few years, or something like that. Greenwald’s put the LINK to the New Yorker item.

    Also in the New Yorker, there is some mention of Assange’s computer-savvy technical competence. Uh, speaking as a computer expert, I was not impressed and Assange’s caliber of ‘competence’ ain’t a smidgeon of what I’ve seen my MIT acquaintance’s do. But then, how could any ‘journalist reporter’ evaluate or rank the reality of tech-glib b.s.? I think it was Asimov: “any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.” Lowly word processors are magic to reporters, even New Yorker reporters.

    But as thoughts are indulged beyond the simpler ones, the mind goes into a global smoke-and-mirrors labyrinth of spy vs. spy vs. counterspy, with double-agents, triple-agents, moles, and plain ol’ ‘security guards’ in temporary need of a short-term large handle because their mistress is preggers, and so on and so on, until the more the mind considers the players and motives, there inexorably is no difference between information and misinformation … vs. disinformation. Maybe as a beginning exercise, for a sense in advance of what you’re walking into, consider that by “global” I mean as easily as you can name 50 states and capitals, the globe-spanners can name the 280 nations of the world and their capitals, and some of the family connections in each one or most of them … or did I just misinform you that there are 280 nations in the world? seats in the UN?

    Enter Wayne Madsen Report .com

    Go there. Subscribe for thirty bucks a year. Read stuff like the following. spin your head around.
    (Dearie Hag, dear, I do hope you and your lovely hyperinfo hero enjoy the longest and dreamiest blissful marriage. He won’t know what hit him when the curlers come out and the chemistry sizzles — I’m sure he’s yours for the taking. Best of everything to you both. And please forgive me for the over-much too too too much of this much trope on your blog. I apologize, truly, and I hope you don’t hate me. But hey, we’re getting into our shared birthday zone (day, really) coming soon, so maybe we can find our magnificent hearts holding some royal allowance in each of us for courtly jestering … or interpreting the writing on the wall …. whatever.) Later, visit Cryptome.org. Anyway, here’s a brain twister:

    WayneMadsenReport.com = WMR

    March 25-26, 2010 — Suspicions abound that Wikileaks is part of U.S. cyber-warfare operations

    WMR has learned from Asian intelligence sources that there is a strong belief in some Asian countries, particularly China and Thailand, that the website Wikileaks, which purports to publish classified and sensitive documents while guaranteeing anonymity to the providers, is linked to U.S. cyber-warfare and computer espionage operations, as well as to Mossad’s own cyber-warfare activities.

    Wikileaks claims to have decrypted video footage of a U.S. Predator air strike on civilians in Afghanistan and that covert U.S. State Department agents followed Wikileaks’s editor from Iceland to Norway in a surveillance operation conducted jointly by the United States and Iceland. Iceland’s financially-strapped government recently announced a policy of becoming a haven for websites that fear political oppression and censorship in their home countries. However, in the case of Wikileaks, countries like China and Thailand are suspicious of the websites’ actual “ownership.”

    Wikileaks says it intends to show its video at an April 5 press conference at the National Press Club in Washington, DC but that its presenters may be detained or arrested before that time. WMR’s sources believe the Wikileaks “militancy” in the face of supposed surveillance appears fake.

    Our Asian intelligence sources report the following: “Wikileaks is running a disinformation campaign, crying persecution by U.S. intelligence- when it is U.S. intelligence itself. Its [Wikileaks'] activities in Iceland are totally suspect.” Wikileaks claims it is the victim of a new COINTELPRO [Counter Intelligence Program] operation directed by the Pentagon and various U.S. intelligence agencies. WMR’s sources believe that it is Wikileaks that is part and parcel of a cyber-COINTELPRO campaign, such as that proposed by President Obama’s “information czar,” Dr. Cass Sunstein.

    In January 2007, John Young, who runs cryptome.org, a site that publishes a wealth of sensitive and classified information, left Wikileaks, claiming the operation was a CIA front. Young also [on his cryptome.org] published some 150 email messages sent by Wikileaks activists. They include a disparaging comment about this editor by Wikileaks co-founder Dr. Julian Assange of Australia. Assange lists as one of his professions “hacker.” His German co-founder of Wikileaks uses a pseudonym, “Daniel Schmitt.”

    Wikileaks claims it is “a multi-jurisdictional organization to protect internal dissidents, whistleblowers, journalists and bloggers who face legal or other threats related to publishing” [whose] primary interest is in exposing oppressive regimes in Asia, the former Soviet bloc, Sub-Saharan Africa and the Middle East, but we are of assistance to people of all nations who wish to reveal unethical behavior in their governments and corporations. We aim for maximum political impact. We have received over 1.2 million documents so far from dissident communities and anonymous sources.”

    In China, Wikileaks is suspected of having Mossad connections. It is pointed out that its first “leak” was from an Al Shabbab “insider” in Somalia. Al Shabbab is the Muslim insurgent group that the neocons have linked to “Al Qaeda.”

    Asian intelligence sources also point out that Assange’s “PhD” is from Moffett University, an on-line diploma mill and that while he is said to hail from Nairobi, Kenya, he actually in from Australia where his exploits have included computer hacking and software piracy.

    WMR has confirmed Young’s contention that Wikileaks is a CIA front operation. Wikileaks is intimately involved in a $20 million CIA operation employing U.S.-based Chinese dissidents that hack into computers in China. Some of the Chinese hackers route special hacking program through Chinese computers that then target U.S. government and military computer systems. After this hacking is accomplished, the U.S. government announces through friendly media outlets that U.S. computers have been subjected to a Chinese cyber-attack. The “threat” increases an already-bloated cyber-defense and offense budget and plays into the fears of the American public and businesses that heavily rely on information technology.

    It is also pointed out that on Wikileaks advisory board is Ben Laurie, a one-time programmer and Internet security expert for Google, which recently signed a cooperative agreement with the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) and has been charged by China with being part of a U.S. cyber-espionage campaign against China. Other Wikileaks advisory members are leading Chinese dissidents, including Wan Dan, who won the 1998 National Endowment for Democracy (NED) Democracy Award; Wang Youcai, founder of the Chinese Democracy Party; Xiao Qiang, the director of the China Internet Project at the University of California at Berkeley, member of the advisory board of the International Campaign for Tibet, and commentator on the George Soros-affiliated Radio Free Asia; and Tibetan exile and activist Tashi Namgyal Khamsitsang.

    Our sources in Asia believe that Wikileaks ran afoul of their CIA paymasters after it was discovered that some of Wikileaks’s “take” was being diverted to Mossad instead of to their benefactors at Langley. After a CIA cur-off in funding, “Daniel Schmitt” took over and moved the Wikileaks operation to Belgium and Sweden with hopes of making a more secure base in Iceland.

    There are strong suspicions that Wikileaks is yet another Soros-funded “false flag” operation on the left side of the political spectrum. WMR has learned that after former Senator Norm Coleman (R-MN) decided to oppose Soros’s choice of UN Secretary General Kofi Annan’s deputy Mark Malloch Brown as President of the World Bank, succedding the disgraced Paul Wolfowitz, Soros put the Wikileaks operation into high gear. “Daniel Schmitt” hacked into Coleman’s supporters list, stealing credit card info, addresses, and publishing the “take” on Wikileaks. Democrat Al Franken, who was strongly backed by Soros, defeated Coleman in a legally-contested and very close election.

    It is also believed by informed sources that Soros is behind the operation to move Wikileaks to Iceland. By becoming a power in Iceland, Soros can prevent Icelanders from paying back the British and Dutch investors in Icelandic online Ponzi scheme banking and continue his all-out war against British Prime Minister Gordon Brown, who has, in turn, targeted Soros for betting against pound sterling.

    Iceland is classic prey for Soros. The Icelandic krona has been decimated as a currency and has no where to go but up in value, especially if the British pound and the euro depreciate. Soros is currently talking down the euro, planning its fall and shorting it, just like he did versus the pound in London in the 1980s. After the UK’s and Europe’s currencies are devalued, Soros will buy every euro note in sight, thus making trillions.

    Soros and his Wikileaks friends have in Iceland a practically unregulated banking system desperate for an influx of capital — money that will come from the exiled Russian tycoons in Israel, London and the United States. Israeli investors like Bank Leumi, and awash in siphoned-off Bernard Madoff cash, will do their bit for this smash-and-grab operation by Soros’s Quantum-linked hedge funds.

    With Wikileaks firmly ensconced in Iceland, the “brave” and much-heralded information leakers will run an international blackmail operation against Soros’s foes and launch computer break-ins against Soros’s business rivals and non-Quantum banks. Wikileaks will be used as the info-hitmen against President Obama’s and Rahm Emanuel’s enemies in the 2012 re-election campaign.

    From Iceland, Soros will be well-positioned to gain control over the massive mineral resources under the melting ice sheet of Greenland. Under the ice are the only major rare-earth deposits outside of China and with such minerals at his disposal, Soros can control the world’s electronics industries. This past week’s volcanic activity in Iceland could, however, disrupt or destroy Soros’s plans to establish and control a North American-European gateway in Iceland.

    The following are some of the emails Young revealed in his expsure of Wikileaks’s CIA connections (as well as to the Russian “phishing” Mafia, an operation run by Russian-Israeli Jews using Israel as a base) [Note: in the second email, "JYA" is a reference to John Young Associates]:

    To: John Young
    From: Wikileaks
    Subject: martha stuart pgp
    Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 12:20:25 -0500

    —–BEGIN PGP MESSAGE—–
    Version: None

    J. We are going to fuck them all. Chinese mostly, but not entirely a feint. Invention
    abounds. Lies, twists and distorts everywhere needed for protection. Hackers monitor
    chinese and other intel as they burrow into their targets, when they pull, so do we.
    Inxhaustible supply of material. Near 100,000 documents/emails a day. We’re going to crack the world open and let it flower into something new. If fleecing the CIA will assist us, then fleece we will. We have pullbacks from NED, CFR, Freedomhouse and other CIA teats. We have all of pre 2005 afghanistan. Almost all of india fed. Half
    a dozen foreign ministries. Dozens of political parties and consulates, worldbank,
    apec, UN sections, trade groups, tibet and fulan dafa associations and… russian
    phishing mafia who pull data everywhere. We’re drowing. We don’t even know a tenth
    of what we have or who it belongs to. We stopped storing it at 1Tb.

    ——————————————-

    From: Julian Assange
    Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 13:40:14 +0000
    To: funtimesahead[a t]lists.riseup.net
    Subject: [WL] cryptome disclosure

    [This is a restricted internal development mailinglist for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g.
    Please do not mention that word directly in these discussions; refer instead to 'WL'.
    This list is housed at riseup.net, an activist collective in Seattle with an established lawyer
    and plenty of backbone.]

    No idea what JYA was saying!

    It’s clear to me however, that he was not trying to protect people’s
    identities with his xxxxx’ing, but rather trying to increase the
    sexiness of the document. Perhaps he feels WL is a threat to the
    central status mechanism in his life? I think he just likes the
    controversy.

    He may have done us a great favor. There’s a lot of movement in that
    document. It’s a little anarchist, but I think it generally reads
    well and sounds like people doing something they care about.

    Btw, I suggest we be careful with Wayne Madsen too. He seems to be
    another case of someone who was fantastic a few years ago, but
    recently has started to see conspiracies everywhere. Both cases
    possibly age related.

    I am not spending any more thought on it. Next week is going to be
    busy. The weeks earlier stories will be already done and that’ll set
    the agenda for the rest of the week, not jya’s attention seeker.

    I’m willing to handle calls for .au, although my background may make
    S a better bet.
    ————————–
    One of WMR’s sources had the following thoughts about Assange’s comments about this editor:
    Careful: Madsen is up to no good concerning secrets concerning WikiLeaks.
    Another Case of Someone: The writer has spent time in psychiatric institution.
    Was Fantastic: Formerly On Our Side, Now becoming an Enemy.
    Conspiracies Everywhere: the George Soros conspiracy in which WikiLeaks is a cog.
    Both Cases: Here it is again, he’s been in an institution.
    Age Related: In 2007, the editor was 52 years old but with possible early senility setting in.

    … see? The Co. is seeing what the Chinese are seeing that The Co. is seeing, but in order not to tip anyone off what capability The Co. has in seeing, the Chinese are seeing wikileaks which is an instrument of The Co. to frame the Chinese to be blamed as the ones hacking into US ‘nat’l.secur.’ sites, when if fact it is The Co. seeing into domestic traffic and data … and the Chinese see all this.

    Not to mention the Zionist fascists in Israel who are not really Judaic jews. Although that situation does warrant watching, and mention … later.

    Veritably, dear dear Hag, believe it or not, in the old women’s advice to young women to let your guy chase you until you catch him, it is Comment as I have put here which has the slightest teensiest perchance that your hearthrob Assange spots this in the worldwide traffic and comes calling here; (all computer keyboard keystrokes worldwide go through detection and ‘inspection’).

    • Meremark says:

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      errata:
      misspelled Ben Franklin. maybe misspelled incense. ‘acquaintances’ mistakenly apostrophe’ed.

      in Wayne’s item he typo’ed ‘succeeded’

      et cetera

      • cocktailhag says:

        Food for thought… The reception has been curiously muted, although I just got home and haven’t checked around on the intertubes yet. I do think Assange’s central point has validity, though: witness the Democratic stirrings over the war supplemental today.
        Time will tell, or not.

  5. Ché Pasa says:

    I don’t know whether Julian and WikiLeaks are Black Ops or not, but there is a strong scent of something not quite what it seems to be in all the hoopla.

    I know, “Love is blind,” and “Love conquers all,” and no one who’s been smitten wants to hear any skepticism about their beloved… but I remain unmoved.

    Compared to the absolute media/government hysteria over Breitbart’s little provocation last week, the response to Julian’s latest Big Revelation is measured, muted, and perfectly…erm… sane.

    From the Pentagon yesterday: “Not a problem.”

    The White House and Holy Joe offer the routine denunciations of anyone who reveals State Secrets (oh my!) but it’s obvious that nothing all that Secret (let alone Stately) was revealed. And Julian says outright that he’s busy redacting 15,000 reports so as not to jeopardize national security or the safety of individuals. Which the New York Times says they asked him to do on behalf of the White House. Uhhhh…. wait… And Julian is calling the NYT, Der Spiegel and the Guardian UK his “media partners.” They’ve had this material for a month or more working on their stories and in the case of the Times, communicating with the WH and one assumes the Pentagon on how to spin it.

    The story hasn’t been buried (except at dKos) but it isn’t like the Tony Hayward Saga which was front and center yesterday. Everyone who is anyone is taking The Leak in stride.

    I don’t know what team Julian is playing for, but I don’t doubt he’s on the field. If you catch my drift…

    • cocktailhag says:

      Ah, another skeptic. Seems that CHNN is going to have to do some more digging, lest its proprietress get saddled with a(nother) sleazy heel.

      • The Heel says:

        Main Entry: slea·zy
        Pronunciation: \ˈslē-zē also ˈslā-\
        Function: adjective
        Inflected Form(s): slea·zi·er; slea·zi·est
        Etymology: origin unknown
        Date: circa 1645

        1 a : lacking firmness of texture : flimsy b : carelessly made of inferior materials : shoddy
        2 a : marked by low character or quality b : squalid, dilapidated

        Low character or quality? I beg your pardon…

        • cocktailhag says:

          I was talking about other heels, although you did look a bit dilapidated after that unfortunate encounter with the speaker cabinet…. And your handling of the infamous “Tart Mixup” was maybe not optimal in terms of quality.

  6. Ché Pasa says:

    We wouldn’t want you to be hurt by a sleazy heel again, hag. It just wouldn’t be right.

    (Though today I was hearing on the NewsHour — I think it was — that Julian and WikiLeaks are becoming “more mainstream” and “responsible.” The War Log doc dump was being characterized as an “important resource.” This by some Hahvud prof and a rep from the GuardianUK, who basically said his paper had “negotiated” with Julian — for hours — to convince him to dump his docs with the Guardian rather than just put them on the Intertubs, and then they got him to agree to give them to the Times and Der Spiegel.

    Interesting perspective…)

    • cocktailhag says:

      Aw, hell, hurt is the wrong word for that. My main Heel is still around, sort of, after 16 years (“The Heel” here is a different entity entirely, though often quite heelish, hence the name, not to me…).
      The plot is thickening, but I’m not seeing a whole lot yet.

  7. Meremark says:

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    Something I notice NOT IN the umpteen-thousand pages of expose’: There’s no mention of the hundreds of innocents who CIA abducted off the street, extraordinarily renditioned, tortured in undisclosed locations of black hole dungeons which were orders-of-magnitude more hellish than Calcutta or The Inquisition racks in Spain or …? And Tortured. to. Death. by CIA-directed operatives. those innocents.

    And if you think you’ve heard the most hellish of it, think again, about this: Wayne Madsen did one report (a year or two ago) where he didn’t have absolute documentation or confirmation to outright declare that the awful-most did happen, but he had enough dribs and drabs to compose the strongly alluding supposition which he stated: Near Cheney’s office (in a closet), he could and did watch live. streaming. video. of torture sessions, the screams, the bone cracks, the blood spurts, from black chambers halfway across the planet. Supposedly getting his sick jollies.

    The pivotal story that appeared about it was the unexplained, downplayed, blip on the media awareness quite shortly before Cheney left office: news item one day saying a mysterious fire happened in an “electrical closet” and firefighters put it out, end of story.

    Electrical‘ !? closet?? WTF is that?

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    So if the wikileaks dump of ‘secrets’ is so outrageously revealing, where are all the CIA torture-murders death-penalty crimes disclosures? not mentioned one iota.

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  8. Meremark says:

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    cripes, I forgot a link I googled up for the Electrical CLoset fire story.

    • cocktailhag says:

      I remember the electrical closet fire story, and at the time I assumed it was evidence being destroyed; Cheney even said he wouldn’t write a book “until the statutes of limitations are up.”
      There you have it.

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    Another link now, for another perspective. Read it and then believe it or not. For myself, there have been instances where I’ve heard very similar (‘parallel’?) stories in person and I could watch the body ‘vibe’ of the storytellers and I could consider how they crossed my path, (whether incidental or suspect), and the congruence of multiple examples like this one makes this one quite believable. But that’s just me, other readers judge for themselves.

    Around here, in Portland environs, the McMinnville airport where (Fred Stickel’s longtime good-buddy) Del Smith’s CIA-front Evergreen Airlines [proper names for you to google] was based since circa 1948, and now a remade ‘legit’ Air Museum is, the wooded hills are dotted thick with secluded pimped-out 2-story ranch houses, 30 or 40 years old, occupied by 70-yr-old recluses seemingly ‘retired’ for 40 years or with ‘no visible means of $upport,’ with plain-sounding names like John Smith or Fred Martin … yeah, sure. And if you bump into them at The General Store in town, and converse, and listen, they turn out to be not wirey old lumberjacks or stumpjumpers but world-traveled savvy ‘bourgeoisie’-types with a rock-hard political chip on their shoulders and a hippie-grudge in their gut and gaps in their autobiography, appearing as plaid-shirted ‘just folks’ and although extra articulate around certain special topics they mostly are taciturn or it takes some interrogative conversational finesse to draw them out.

    (Or look at Stickel’s story: Jersey kid, WWII Marine, returned to Jersey, for a couple years, then abruptly a wild hair tickles his fancy to relocate in Oregon and run Newhouse’s The O. From an impenetrable ‘ivory tower’ opinion-dropsite parapet. I met him once in his sanctum sanctorum redoubt. Stickel’s life profile seems recarved in the newly- and abrupt-arrived Kroger: from uncertain origin ‘having something to do with’ New York, to Oreg via bike ride (across the country?!), plop into college prof cred for a brief dues-paying stint, and now … poofvoila!, Attorney General, also an impenetrable position. You can’t no more but I met him once when he was ‘campaigning’ … slummin’ shoulder-rubbin’ among the proles. My diagnosis: uber spooky. I mean UBER SPOOKY.)

    So there are pips in the population living in a parallel universe among and around the rest of us. In one way of looking at it. Here’s another, joined in the chorus:

    The parallel universe, By Douglas Valentine, Jul 26, 2010

    Let me tell you a story.

    In 1985, I was contacted by Larry, a CIA officer who had had a breakdown and wanted to talk to me. He had served as a deep cover agent overseas for over 15 years at ….

    And then there’s this dumbhead tom, self-effacing in name but exceptionally articulate and well-researched, who(?) pops out of the blue into this backwater blog, (meant affectionate, CH, very affectionate — if I didn’t love it and you, your talented artistic touch, then I wouldn’t be here), dumbhead shows up very soon after I first start in here with comment-talk such as about abolishing the CIA. In other websites other earlier times the same thing seems like it happened: I protest in print, then magically some impossibly-surviving social-retard voice ‘pops up’ smearing peanut butter in internet-newbie folks’s thinking caps. If I had paranoia afflictions I could imagine ‘they’ are following me. I don’t know, let ‘em. My attitude is Satchel Paige’s: don’t look back.

    (I’ve never googled me. I know where I’ve been, and I can’t say the same for Google.)

    • cocktailhag says:

      I had a client last fall who worked at Evergreen; he was smitten by “Mr. Smith,” and was at his beck and call for frequent, usually spontaneous trips to NY, always to meet with Money Men. The culture sounded quite antediluvian; ties and jacket required, Top Secret everything, the use of “Mr. so-and so,” and on and on. I got the impression that brainwashing and authoritarianism were the core functions of a company ostensibly devoted to aviation. The Museum was merely a memorial to Smith’s son, who died in a car accident (as many rural teens do), and thus wasn’t exactly philanthropy.

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        Not to leave the wrong impression that I call the Museum “philanthropy”: I don’t consider it that.

        During the closing weeks of Bush Sr ‘Sinister’ in office, after the USSR folded its hand and quit the ‘cold war charades’ game, Congress actually discussed abolishing the Pentagon and/or abolishing the CIA and began opening the ‘black budget’ bookkeeping.

        The spooks scrambled among ‘their’ operational assets, all the Evergreens about to get the master ‘charge it’ card cancelled, to convert them to ‘legitimate’ pay-their-way businesses. So the bullshit ‘Air Museum’ in McMinnville got begun. It’s NOT a museum, it’s a warehouse … for the totems and superstition-invested talismans of bygone dinosaur technology, an altar for icon photos as if the things could come back to life some day.

        The Spruce Goose was a white elephant embarrassment inherited from BigTime CIA-agent Howard Hughes — Long Beach (CA) was kicking the ‘asset’ out and where else would take it in but among the spruce-huggers, hicks without history and ready-made for repeating everyone else’s.

        The actual planes and planet-hopping ‘mission’ flights based in McMinimumville until 1993 or so, mostly relocated to the airplane U-pull-it junkyard in Arizona, where no one is around to spot takeoffs and landings, the weather never rains or snows, and the State political mindset imitates McCain’s Military, (a land-locked McHale’s Navy).

        The ‘museum’ in McMinn is sure not anything philanthropic. It’s a way to get the fixated public, (the CIA’s ‘base’), to fork over their money directly to The Company, at the ‘ticket window,’ rather than the oldtime ‘circular’ route of paying taxes and having Congress fork it over.