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		<title>By: cocktailhag</title>
		<link>http://www.cocktailhag.com/blog/wtf/punishment-farm/comment-page-1/#comment-6431</link>
		<dc:creator>cocktailhag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 06:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  A cuckoo British lady who sounds just like Glenn Beck....  Defending racism, authoritarianism, religious fundamentalism, and the prerogatives of the ruling class, and calling it freedom.  Sheesh.  You sure can pick &#039;em.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  A cuckoo British lady who sounds just like Glenn Beck&#8230;.  Defending racism, authoritarianism, religious fundamentalism, and the prerogatives of the ruling class, and calling it freedom.  Sheesh.  You sure can pick &#8216;em.</p>
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		<title>By: nailheadtom</title>
		<link>http://www.cocktailhag.com/blog/wtf/punishment-farm/comment-page-1/#comment-6429</link>
		<dc:creator>nailheadtom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1226211/MELANIE-PHILLIPS-We-fools-think-fall-Berlin-Wall-killed-far-Left-Theyre--attacking-within.html</description>
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		<title>By: cocktailhag</title>
		<link>http://www.cocktailhag.com/blog/wtf/punishment-farm/comment-page-1/#comment-6428</link>
		<dc:creator>cocktailhag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 02:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That, and lead tainted toys and shit tainted hamburger.  Get some rest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That, and lead tainted toys and shit tainted hamburger.  Get some rest.</p>
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		<title>By: nailheadtom</title>
		<link>http://www.cocktailhag.com/blog/wtf/punishment-farm/comment-page-1/#comment-6427</link>
		<dc:creator>nailheadtom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, you mean this kind of &quot;noblesse oblige&quot;:  http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2325107/posts

And if &quot;many of its employees must rely on food stamps and Medicaid&quot; does that mean that all employers with similar wage structures (of which there are many) are similarly evil?  I&#039;ll bet the supermarket down the street from the Wal-mart doesn&#039;t pay much better, or the local hardware store or movie theater or restaurant or any other retailer, especially in the rural centers that are the heart of the Wal-mart empire.  And how is it that these employees &quot;must rely on food stamps and Medicaid&quot;?  Nobody is required to  be in either of those programs, or work at Wal-mart.  At least they get the chance to buy soap at a reasonable price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, you mean this kind of &#8220;noblesse oblige&#8221;:  <a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2325107/posts" rel="nofollow">http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2325107/posts</a></p>
<p>And if &#8220;many of its employees must rely on food stamps and Medicaid&#8221; does that mean that all employers with similar wage structures (of which there are many) are similarly evil?  I&#8217;ll bet the supermarket down the street from the Wal-mart doesn&#8217;t pay much better, or the local hardware store or movie theater or restaurant or any other retailer, especially in the rural centers that are the heart of the Wal-mart empire.  And how is it that these employees &#8220;must rely on food stamps and Medicaid&#8221;?  Nobody is required to  be in either of those programs, or work at Wal-mart.  At least they get the chance to buy soap at a reasonable price.</p>
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		<title>By: cocktailhag</title>
		<link>http://www.cocktailhag.com/blog/wtf/punishment-farm/comment-page-1/#comment-6425</link>
		<dc:creator>cocktailhag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll attempt to deal with both of your lame retorts in one post, as I&#039;m just starting dinner, and I don&#039;t want to spoil my appetite.  I guess I meant to point out that communist hellholes were less annoying than Walmart; they couldn&#039;t afford to have lighting bright enough to perform surgery under, nor did they have 300 garbage, identical products where five would do.  The commies crapped out because, just like we&#039;re doing now, they decided to devote all their national wealth to stupid imperial ventures.  Here, admittedly, it&#039;s softened somewhat by the fact that although we waste all our money on weaponry and the military industrial complex, our debt to China to pay for it all requires us to have more shitty, foreign consumer goods than they did.  My patriotic heart swells.  I&#039;m not worried about Walmart personally; it has zero market penetration where I live, nor will it ever.  We have better choices.  Their heirs are a different story, though.
Say what you will about the Kennedys, which could just as easily be said about the Bushes, they never collaborated with our enemies and they also never devoted their lives to pulling up the ladder of prosperity behind them the way the Waltons do. they epitomized noblesse oblige, recognizing to whom much is given, much is required; lobbying for personal enrichment while refusing to work, ala Waltons, is a little different.  I&#039;m surprised you are dumb enough to make such a ridiculous comparison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll attempt to deal with both of your lame retorts in one post, as I&#8217;m just starting dinner, and I don&#8217;t want to spoil my appetite.  I guess I meant to point out that communist hellholes were less annoying than Walmart; they couldn&#8217;t afford to have lighting bright enough to perform surgery under, nor did they have 300 garbage, identical products where five would do.  The commies crapped out because, just like we&#8217;re doing now, they decided to devote all their national wealth to stupid imperial ventures.  Here, admittedly, it&#8217;s softened somewhat by the fact that although we waste all our money on weaponry and the military industrial complex, our debt to China to pay for it all requires us to have more shitty, foreign consumer goods than they did.  My patriotic heart swells.  I&#8217;m not worried about Walmart personally; it has zero market penetration where I live, nor will it ever.  We have better choices.  Their heirs are a different story, though.<br />
Say what you will about the Kennedys, which could just as easily be said about the Bushes, they never collaborated with our enemies and they also never devoted their lives to pulling up the ladder of prosperity behind them the way the Waltons do. they epitomized noblesse oblige, recognizing to whom much is given, much is required; lobbying for personal enrichment while refusing to work, ala Waltons, is a little different.  I&#8217;m surprised you are dumb enough to make such a ridiculous comparison.</p>
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		<title>By: nailheadtom</title>
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		<dc:creator>nailheadtom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What, in “market” terms, are the WalMart heirs worth to society? Less than nothing; a lot less. They’d be more useful working as greeters in their piece-of-shit stores.
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Now we&#039;re getting somewhere.  Apparently in CHWorld there&#039;s a guide to &quot;societal worth&quot;.  Who writes the guide?  Who decides the merits of the life lived by anyone?  Just because the innovator that founded a lucrative business decided to pass his wealth on to his children makes those children worthless?  Better put a rock on the Kennedy millions, then.  None of them has done anything of value since the old man delivered his last load of bootleg whiskey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What, in “market” terms, are the WalMart heirs worth to society? Less than nothing; a lot less. They’d be more useful working as greeters in their piece-of-shit stores.<br />
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<p>Now we&#8217;re getting somewhere.  Apparently in CHWorld there&#8217;s a guide to &#8220;societal worth&#8221;.  Who writes the guide?  Who decides the merits of the life lived by anyone?  Just because the innovator that founded a lucrative business decided to pass his wealth on to his children makes those children worthless?  Better put a rock on the Kennedy millions, then.  None of them has done anything of value since the old man delivered his last load of bootleg whiskey.</p>
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		<title>By: nailheadtom</title>
		<link>http://www.cocktailhag.com/blog/wtf/punishment-farm/comment-page-1/#comment-6423</link>
		<dc:creator>nailheadtom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the shopping experience within reminiscent of some communist hellhole&quot;
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Now we&#039;re talking bullshit.  If the commies could have supplied their citizens like Wal-mart does, maybe they wouldn&#039;t be circling their wagons in North Korea and Cuba.  And the customer isn&#039;t moving in to Wal-mart, he&#039;s there to buy a set of towels or some dog feed.  Who wants to pay for ambiance?  
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&quot;it flat out can’t compete&quot;
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If that&#039;s the case, then what are you worried about?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the shopping experience within reminiscent of some communist hellhole&#8221;<br />
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<p>Now we&#8217;re talking bullshit.  If the commies could have supplied their citizens like Wal-mart does, maybe they wouldn&#8217;t be circling their wagons in North Korea and Cuba.  And the customer isn&#8217;t moving in to Wal-mart, he&#8217;s there to buy a set of towels or some dog feed.  Who wants to pay for ambiance?<br />
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<p>&#8220;it flat out can’t compete&#8221;<br />
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<p>If that&#8217;s the case, then what are you worried about?</p>
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		<title>By: cocktailhag</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What utter bullshit.  Because of its overwhelming size, WalMart has bullied its suppliers into offshoring jobs, it takes enormous losses to kill competition, and many of its employees must rely on food stamps and Medicaid.  That&#039;s called freeloading, in righty parlance.  Its growth has already stalled, since no rational country would allow such a predator to operate there, and few cities in the US will, either.  Also, do you have eyes?  It&#039;s stores are blights upon the landscape, the shopping experience within reminiscent of some communist hellhole, and unless it&#039;s located somewhere with no other options, it flat out can&#039;t compete.
Worse, other retailers have emulated its model, continuing the race to the bottom.
And shut up about class envy.  What, in &quot;market&quot; terms, are the WalMart heirs worth to society?  Less than nothing; a lot less.  They&#039;d be more useful working as greeters in their piece-of-shit stores.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What utter bullshit.  Because of its overwhelming size, WalMart has bullied its suppliers into offshoring jobs, it takes enormous losses to kill competition, and many of its employees must rely on food stamps and Medicaid.  That&#8217;s called freeloading, in righty parlance.  Its growth has already stalled, since no rational country would allow such a predator to operate there, and few cities in the US will, either.  Also, do you have eyes?  It&#8217;s stores are blights upon the landscape, the shopping experience within reminiscent of some communist hellhole, and unless it&#8217;s located somewhere with no other options, it flat out can&#8217;t compete.<br />
Worse, other retailers have emulated its model, continuing the race to the bottom.<br />
And shut up about class envy.  What, in &#8220;market&#8221; terms, are the WalMart heirs worth to society?  Less than nothing; a lot less.  They&#8217;d be more useful working as greeters in their piece-of-shit stores.</p>
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		<title>By: nailheadtom</title>
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		<dc:creator>nailheadtom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;How about WalMart? It destroys local business, drives manufacturing overseas, busts unions, keeps its associates in peonage, while its greedy heirs seek to eliminate the Estate Tax, because it beats working.&quot;
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Yeah, how about Wal-mart?  No one is forced to shop or work there.  But the citizen democracy votes with their billfolds and shops there from early until late while the dying Main Street stores close at 5 and charge more.  If they can&#039;t or won&#039;t  compete with the Wal-mart paradigm, they&#039;ll disappear, as they should.  Others, willing to supply what customers want when they want it, will find opportunities that Wal-mart can&#039;t exploit.  Do you seriously think that Wal-mart is some sort of retailing/merchandising endgame?  That human innovation won&#039;t discover and implement new and better ways of supplying human needs and wants?  Once again, you and yours have a low opinion of the human race, which really doesn&#039;t need your class-envy philosophy to continue to develop ways to make life better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;How about WalMart? It destroys local business, drives manufacturing overseas, busts unions, keeps its associates in peonage, while its greedy heirs seek to eliminate the Estate Tax, because it beats working.&#8221;<br />
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<p>Yeah, how about Wal-mart?  No one is forced to shop or work there.  But the citizen democracy votes with their billfolds and shops there from early until late while the dying Main Street stores close at 5 and charge more.  If they can&#8217;t or won&#8217;t  compete with the Wal-mart paradigm, they&#8217;ll disappear, as they should.  Others, willing to supply what customers want when they want it, will find opportunities that Wal-mart can&#8217;t exploit.  Do you seriously think that Wal-mart is some sort of retailing/merchandising endgame?  That human innovation won&#8217;t discover and implement new and better ways of supplying human needs and wants?  Once again, you and yours have a low opinion of the human race, which really doesn&#8217;t need your class-envy philosophy to continue to develop ways to make life better.</p>
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		<title>By: cocktailhag</title>
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		<dc:creator>cocktailhag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m dealing with the present here, Tom. in which Michelle Malkin and other righties gasbags have defended Japanese internment; something of which liberals are rightfully ashamed.  The fact that you defend our oligarchy so fervently, when it stifles competition, refuses to pay its share of taxes, and has purchased the government outright is simply beyond me.  What&#039;s &quot;free market&quot; about Halliburton?  Blackwater?  Goldman Sachs?  Nothing.  They are creatures of crony capitalism and government favoritism.  How about WalMart?  It destroys local business, drives manufacturing overseas, busts unions, keeps its associates in peonage, while its greedy heirs seek to eliminate the Estate Tax, because it beats working.  The coal industry shears off mountains and dumps them into streams, oil exploration creates sinkholes that threaten to swallow up towns and destroyed the marshes that once protected New Orleans.
A little awareness of the world around you would make your comments more interesting, and less reliant on irrelevant ad hominems and pseudo-psychology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m dealing with the present here, Tom. in which Michelle Malkin and other righties gasbags have defended Japanese internment; something of which liberals are rightfully ashamed.  The fact that you defend our oligarchy so fervently, when it stifles competition, refuses to pay its share of taxes, and has purchased the government outright is simply beyond me.  What&#8217;s &#8220;free market&#8221; about Halliburton?  Blackwater?  Goldman Sachs?  Nothing.  They are creatures of crony capitalism and government favoritism.  How about WalMart?  It destroys local business, drives manufacturing overseas, busts unions, keeps its associates in peonage, while its greedy heirs seek to eliminate the Estate Tax, because it beats working.  The coal industry shears off mountains and dumps them into streams, oil exploration creates sinkholes that threaten to swallow up towns and destroyed the marshes that once protected New Orleans.<br />
A little awareness of the world around you would make your comments more interesting, and less reliant on irrelevant ad hominems and pseudo-psychology.</p>
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